The Omega Constellation pie pan dial was so named because of
its similarity to an up-turned pie pan. Sounds fairly plausible, or does
it?
If something is said
often enough, especially on the internet, the chances of it ultimately being
perceived as fact are relatively strong. We encounter
endless factoids in the mass media where reporters report something as
fact, the 'fact' suddenly goes viral, only to be debunked or corrected down the line.
In evaluating the pie pan story for its factoid-ness, what
do we find? On inspection, does a “pie
pan” dial actually look like an up-turned pie pan? Ever seen a real pie pan
with twelve facets? Most have flat bases
and rounded edges, more akin to the heavily domed dials of the earliest of
Constellations, do they not? It’s fair
to say that it requires a reasonable stretch of one's imaginative faculties to perceive faceted
Constellation dials as pie pans.
Secondly, much of the nomenclature of horology is in Swiss French.
Its elegant form lends itself to the horological lexicon, whereas Swiss German
is a rather challenging and cumbersome tongue to non-speakers. Can you
imagine a twelve sided dial being described as a “zwöufsiitigs ziffreblatt”,
no?
Omega’s main operations were based
in Bienne (on the border of the French speaking population) and Geneva (right
in the thick of the French-speaking zone) and hence it would be perfectly natural
to describe the dial as “douze pans” (translated, “twelve-sided”), which was
the legitimate description of it by Omega when first released and, indeed, long
after.
As a young pre-internet watch enthusiast, I never heard the
description “pie pan”, but rather heard these dials described as “twelve sided”
or “faceted” dials. But someone,
somewhere, at some time, probably after the advent of the worldwide web, was
responsible for transforming “douze pans” into “pie pans”, and since that
defining moment the “pie pan” factoid has been repeated so often by so many
that Omega now uses the term in its printed and on-line material.
So, pie pans it is, but if you’re a horological pedant feel free to call these dials “douze pans", or if you are a fine, upstanding citizen of German-Speaking Switzerland, "zwöufsiitigs ziffreblatt” is perfect!
Hello Desmond.
ReplyDeleteI have seen that you are back on the screen.
Nice article on my favourite dials.
In this "rather gluggy and cumbersome tongue"
it would be correctly spelled a "zwöufsiitigs ziffreblatt".
With a big grin out of planet Emmental
Dan
Hi Dan,
DeleteI bow to your superior knowledge and will alter it immediately!
Nice hearing form you.
Regards
Desmond
Hi Desmond,
ReplyDeleteI've been a great fan of this site for years but I'm still hesitant to do my own analysis of a Connie that is being offered to me. Would you mind giving me your thoughts on this piece? Photos could be found here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/84250118@N05/19900986065/in/photostream/
Many thanks,
Paul
Hi Paul,
DeleteI'm glad you have found it useful.
Re the mentioned watch. Signature parts are all there in the movement. Rotor looks as though it has been changed as it's a different hue to the copper/beryllium plating of the rest of the movement...not a biggie.
Dial is correct and original. Crown is incorrect and is of the 2.5mm pipe size variety, whereas it should have the thinner 2.00 pipe size crown. This means that you will not get much in the way of protection from any moisture.
Case is relatively sharp and I think I can see the chamfers on the lugs. The case should be a 14902 with this dial - note the absence of Officially Certified. These cases were faked, and while I'm not saying your is a fake it pays to have a good look at the lugs. Case body has the correct double chamfer between case middle and bezel, so it should be okay.
Cheers
Desmond
Hi Desmond,
ReplyDeleteI recently inherited an old pie-pan constellation but it has suffered water damage in the dial. I have been looking around for a dial like the one you are showing in this post with no luck. Any recommendation as to where I can find one? I really want to restore this watch to its former glory.
Thank you very much,
Alex
Hi Alex. Very slim chance of sourcing a nos replacement dial. If the dial patina is too extreme, refinishing the existing dial is about your only option I'm afraid.
DeleteRegards
Desmond
Hi Desmond, great article on the "pie pan" in England we referred to it as a "spiders web" dial and pie pan became an "American" nickname which became the norm when the internet arrived?
ReplyDeleteCould well have been coined post Internet Jonathon. Not sure if it was American but the use of pan suggests it eh.
ReplyDeleteRegards
Desmond
Can someone educate me what are the symbol CB and SGR means stamped on case back of Connie watches.
ReplyDeleteYes, both of those marks are casemaker's stamps. CB stands for the case company owned by the Brandt family called Centrale Boites, and SGR escapes me for now, but a Swiss company contracted to make cases for Omega
DeleteCheers
Desmond